I wonder how much "shaking off stress" can help - as animals shake after an injury, but humans do not. Qi Gong practice has shaking exercises. Have you found this to help Gary?
Truly astounding research you keep putting out Gary - thank you.
Yes, ironically I have found that folks with tremor dominant parkinson's tend to benefit most from TRE [trauma release exercises], but for those of us with rigidity/freeze dominant iit can be too overwhelming and "crash" the system....
Look at "Shaking" Trauma therapy as a part of the somatic therapy movement. Theres a few books on it, and its experienced a resurgence in the last decade.
The "trauma/injury", essentially gets stuck in the body because the trauma response gets interrupted in humans, unlike other animals. By connecting the shaking response to the trauma, it allows the trauma cycle pattern to complete, and resets the nervous system back to baseline, therefore allowing the trauma to be released, not stored.😊
Hi John, I was meaning to reach out to you re: Earthing pads...if I remember correctly, you said that you feel good with them, and you live in the UK. This would make sense, as the UK is wired more efficiently without grounding errors as in North America. I recently did an interview with Dave Stetzer who talks about the grounding error issue, as well as dirty electricity (a separate EMF phenomenon) from phone chargers being plugged in, along with errors of the power grid:
Hi Ronan, I'm also in the UK and read your 'dirty electricity' essay.
We also feel good with earthing mats. We put it across the pillow at night.
Reading your essay stimulated me to think again.
It's clearly a very complicated issue and there are many variables. I suppose you have read Jack Kruse? Points out importance of magnetism, and that volcanic areas tend to be better for our health.
I concluded, for now, to continue using my earthing pad at night, since better sleep is probably a reliable metric.
Hi Rosie, thanks for your questions. Our bodies are complex, but this is why I like to simplify things and appreciate Jack Kruse's approach. Our Earth is not a sponge, but a conductor of electricity - and even minute electrical currents can have an impact. Ultimately you need to use your intuition.
Roman, I have been meaning to get back to you. Thank you very much for the link. That is a very interesting discussion with Dave Stetzer. I think I now understand what his filters are addressing and how they work. (a bit more technical detail would be nice for those of us with a background in electronics)
When I can free up some cash, I might order some of his filters and do a bit of testing myself.
I'm in the USA. Minnesota specifically and my home was built in 1978 (although I've just moved to South Dakota and now I'm in a home built in 1900 but partially rewired (probably a couple times)).
I've slept on Earthing sheets for about 15 years now. And I have a grounding pad at my computer so I'm touching that numerous times per day.
Interesting thanks. Do you have signs of long term health issues developing? Conversely how confident are you that earthing pads at night are beneficial, please?
We've recently started sleeping on our earthing mats.
Good questions Rosie. As far as I can tell, I remain one of the healthiest people I know. I don't do everything right (desk job is unhealthy, I really need to be more physically active). Certainly I've seen no evidence of any harm from long term usage of grounding sheets.
It would be hard to pin down a definite level of confidence in the benefit of sleeping on Earthing sheets. I'm extremely confident. I can't imagine giving mine up. I read about a "magnet pad" to sleep on and how one person said it was the number one thing you could do for health, but as soon as I read you had to choose one or the other, you couldn't sleep grounded and use a magnet setup, well forget the magnets! I won't give up my earthing sheets.
Having said that, I'm a huge believer in "placebo effect". Our minds are very, very powerful and if we believe something helps us then it most likely will help us even if it "does nothing".
Many thanks for your comprehensive reply. Many interesting threads to pursue so my answers tend to be haphazard.
That's reassuring that you've slept on these pads for 15 years. I tend to give our instincts a bit more credence than you perhaps, as in many situations the best guide we have. Also from what I understand of DMSO, earthing works in conjunction with it.
For your interest, about 30 years ago I purchased a sleeping pad with magnets, and shoe inserts with magnets. The sleeping mat felt somehow lively. I used it for perhaps a year before someone alerted me to the fact that the earth's magnetic field is pretty weak, and these magnets much stronger, and this person was alarmed by the fad. I decided to discontinue and put it in a cupboard and eventually the bin. Reverting to instincts, I don't miss it and don't regret binning it.
Meanwhile I continued with the shoe insoles and wore them out, being pretty desperate with foot pain. In retrospect I don't think they helped, and possibly harmed.
This makes very good sense to me. I'm remembering a friend with a massive amount of trauma in childhood. Her face always looked, underneath everything else, stuck in fear. A bit frozen, raised eyebrows, eyes a bit too open.
A few months ago I had neck pain caused by muscle knots on the back of my right shoulder which healed up.
Then the left side started acting up and I've been healing from that.
It started to happen around the same time that I got into gentle qi gong exercises a few times a week.
Perhaps the pain is from my body trying to readjust from having been in high tension in those areas for so long.
Before these issues, it was just mild shoulder pain here and there that would go away, but when it flared up I was afraid that I damaged something. But after the first shoulder healed, I haven't had pain there and the other one is almost healed and I expect that side to act the same afterwards.
💯👏👍Look at the connection between the photonic relationship, fascial tissue and the EZ water within the body, and the dispersion of mitochondria, then look at it within the lens of PD symptoms and presentation.😉 it's almost like a calcification of the fascia.
For kicks, I'd also overlay a map of the lymphatic system, over the meridian pathways, combined with a generalised mito concentration (to my knowledge there's no official mitochondrial "map"), and see what you see😉
I definitely think the fascia has a massive role to play - if you inhabit the stress reflex postures eventually you get stuck in that configuration. A lack of dopamine seems to be connected with fascia dehydration.
We've taken life histories of very many folks with PD [my colleague Lilian Sjoberg is going to be bringing out a book on this soon] and some sort of trauma is universak....
How fascinating. Over time, it will be interesting to explore parallels between complex-ptsd (my problem)and PD. I'd no idea there was a connection there.
Certainly ptsd is extremely tough on the nervous system.
I've always had a tendency to fall ill, and many years ago realised that this was protective.
Interesting, not sure if the blues aren't also accupressure points? I know that there are accuspressure points which are not either the blue or red points though, e.g. on the pulse point in the wrist.
So I've figured out why my muscles just above and around the knees are especially flaccid, weak, and badly coordinated. It's part of the fear/freeze response, to drop safely to the ground, out of sight and playing dead. (C-ptsd here, not Parkinsons, but learning about the parallels.)
This is so interesting. I had no idea. But they do love their different diagnoses and generating more and more specialisms.
Among other things, it's just another way of dividing us up and making everyone isolated. I've only ever (knowingly) met one other person with complex ptsd.
Very interesting. I am fascinated by the posture and movement of people who are ill or damaged. I wonder if the cause is fear of losing control due to Parkinson's, or if perhaps the poisons that cause Parkinson's damage specific muscle and nerves leading to this posture.
I think there are many feedback loops, like being stuck in fear meaning you are exiled from working immune system or detoxification pathways which then make you more susceptible to pathogens and poisoning. But the nocebo effects of diagnosis means the biggest fear becomes the fear of your own body in a vicious circle.
I wonder how much "shaking off stress" can help - as animals shake after an injury, but humans do not. Qi Gong practice has shaking exercises. Have you found this to help Gary?
Truly astounding research you keep putting out Gary - thank you.
Yes, ironically I have found that folks with tremor dominant parkinson's tend to benefit most from TRE [trauma release exercises], but for those of us with rigidity/freeze dominant iit can be too overwhelming and "crash" the system....
What would you recommend for more 'freeze' types?
Dancing, fascia release modalities, trauma healing therapies
If you can tolerate it, Music Therapy ( no musical abilities required btw)
Look at "Shaking" Trauma therapy as a part of the somatic therapy movement. Theres a few books on it, and its experienced a resurgence in the last decade.
The "trauma/injury", essentially gets stuck in the body because the trauma response gets interrupted in humans, unlike other animals. By connecting the shaking response to the trauma, it allows the trauma cycle pattern to complete, and resets the nervous system back to baseline, therefore allowing the trauma to be released, not stored.😊
This "shaking" is an interesting idea! Hmm... need to ponder that.
Hi John, I was meaning to reach out to you re: Earthing pads...if I remember correctly, you said that you feel good with them, and you live in the UK. This would make sense, as the UK is wired more efficiently without grounding errors as in North America. I recently did an interview with Dave Stetzer who talks about the grounding error issue, as well as dirty electricity (a separate EMF phenomenon) from phone chargers being plugged in, along with errors of the power grid:
https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/stetzer
Hi Ronan, I'm also in the UK and read your 'dirty electricity' essay.
We also feel good with earthing mats. We put it across the pillow at night.
Reading your essay stimulated me to think again.
It's clearly a very complicated issue and there are many variables. I suppose you have read Jack Kruse? Points out importance of magnetism, and that volcanic areas tend to be better for our health.
I concluded, for now, to continue using my earthing pad at night, since better sleep is probably a reliable metric.
Yes in the UK, earthing is done enthusiastically.
Hi Rosie, thanks for your questions. Our bodies are complex, but this is why I like to simplify things and appreciate Jack Kruse's approach. Our Earth is not a sponge, but a conductor of electricity - and even minute electrical currents can have an impact. Ultimately you need to use your intuition.
FYI here's a podcast I did with Dr. Jack:
https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/kruse
I've written about earthing extensively in many articles, but here's one take of mine: https://romanshapoval.substack.com/i/141507692/earth-is-not-a-sponge-its-a-conductor
Anything that improves sleep is definitely valuable!
Roman, I have been meaning to get back to you. Thank you very much for the link. That is a very interesting discussion with Dave Stetzer. I think I now understand what his filters are addressing and how they work. (a bit more technical detail would be nice for those of us with a background in electronics)
When I can free up some cash, I might order some of his filters and do a bit of testing myself.
Thanks so much John for listening! For sure. If you call Stetzer's company, they may be able to give you a discount.
I'm in the USA. Minnesota specifically and my home was built in 1978 (although I've just moved to South Dakota and now I'm in a home built in 1900 but partially rewired (probably a couple times)).
I've slept on Earthing sheets for about 15 years now. And I have a grounding pad at my computer so I'm touching that numerous times per day.
Interesting thanks. Do you have signs of long term health issues developing? Conversely how confident are you that earthing pads at night are beneficial, please?
We've recently started sleeping on our earthing mats.
Good questions Rosie. As far as I can tell, I remain one of the healthiest people I know. I don't do everything right (desk job is unhealthy, I really need to be more physically active). Certainly I've seen no evidence of any harm from long term usage of grounding sheets.
It would be hard to pin down a definite level of confidence in the benefit of sleeping on Earthing sheets. I'm extremely confident. I can't imagine giving mine up. I read about a "magnet pad" to sleep on and how one person said it was the number one thing you could do for health, but as soon as I read you had to choose one or the other, you couldn't sleep grounded and use a magnet setup, well forget the magnets! I won't give up my earthing sheets.
Having said that, I'm a huge believer in "placebo effect". Our minds are very, very powerful and if we believe something helps us then it most likely will help us even if it "does nothing".
Many thanks for your comprehensive reply. Many interesting threads to pursue so my answers tend to be haphazard.
That's reassuring that you've slept on these pads for 15 years. I tend to give our instincts a bit more credence than you perhaps, as in many situations the best guide we have. Also from what I understand of DMSO, earthing works in conjunction with it.
For your interest, about 30 years ago I purchased a sleeping pad with magnets, and shoe inserts with magnets. The sleeping mat felt somehow lively. I used it for perhaps a year before someone alerted me to the fact that the earth's magnetic field is pretty weak, and these magnets much stronger, and this person was alarmed by the fad. I decided to discontinue and put it in a cupboard and eventually the bin. Reverting to instincts, I don't miss it and don't regret binning it.
Meanwhile I continued with the shoe insoles and wore them out, being pretty desperate with foot pain. In retrospect I don't think they helped, and possibly harmed.
This makes very good sense to me. I'm remembering a friend with a massive amount of trauma in childhood. Her face always looked, underneath everything else, stuck in fear. A bit frozen, raised eyebrows, eyes a bit too open.
Plus mouth tightly shut to prevent sounds escaping. Leading to teeth and jaw problems
Thank you.
Interesting!
A few months ago I had neck pain caused by muscle knots on the back of my right shoulder which healed up.
Then the left side started acting up and I've been healing from that.
It started to happen around the same time that I got into gentle qi gong exercises a few times a week.
Perhaps the pain is from my body trying to readjust from having been in high tension in those areas for so long.
Before these issues, it was just mild shoulder pain here and there that would go away, but when it flared up I was afraid that I damaged something. But after the first shoulder healed, I haven't had pain there and the other one is almost healed and I expect that side to act the same afterwards.
💯👏👍Look at the connection between the photonic relationship, fascial tissue and the EZ water within the body, and the dispersion of mitochondria, then look at it within the lens of PD symptoms and presentation.😉 it's almost like a calcification of the fascia.
For kicks, I'd also overlay a map of the lymphatic system, over the meridian pathways, combined with a generalised mito concentration (to my knowledge there's no official mitochondrial "map"), and see what you see😉
I definitely think the fascia has a massive role to play - if you inhabit the stress reflex postures eventually you get stuck in that configuration. A lack of dopamine seems to be connected with fascia dehydration.
I've only known one person w Parkinson's. He'd had a uniquely traumatic young adulthood. Interesting
We've taken life histories of very many folks with PD [my colleague Lilian Sjoberg is going to be bringing out a book on this soon] and some sort of trauma is universak....
How fascinating. Over time, it will be interesting to explore parallels between complex-ptsd (my problem)and PD. I'd no idea there was a connection there.
Certainly ptsd is extremely tough on the nervous system.
I've always had a tendency to fall ill, and many years ago realised that this was protective.
Non-verbal communication is a fascinating subject to study. Vanessa Van Edwards has some interesting books and does some good presentations.
İnteresting and makes sense
could it be that the red dots correspond also to acupressure points?
Interesting, not sure if the blues aren't also accupressure points? I know that there are accuspressure points which are not either the blue or red points though, e.g. on the pulse point in the wrist.
I only recently got into acupressure, but noticed that several reds are points that I already know. There are hundreds more !
Very stressful/traumatic young years here. The diagram very accurately reflects my tense and flaccid muscles. Also above my knees are also flaccid.
Part of my routine on better days includes light shaking of the arms/shoulders. Makes sense in the light of your essay here.
I recommend Eric Franklin and Yasmin Lambert and TheFascialHub.com
So I've figured out why my muscles just above and around the knees are especially flaccid, weak, and badly coordinated. It's part of the fear/freeze response, to drop safely to the ground, out of sight and playing dead. (C-ptsd here, not Parkinsons, but learning about the parallels.)
Another good connection, thanks.
And, bm disruptions; too slow for those in freeze/hide/play dead mode (would give away location/fact that not dead).
Too fast for those in flight/fight mode (can flee faster).
Is it basically the same pattern for PD, Gary?
Yes, I think so
This is so interesting. I had no idea. But they do love their different diagnoses and generating more and more specialisms.
Among other things, it's just another way of dividing us up and making everyone isolated. I've only ever (knowingly) met one other person with complex ptsd.
Very interesting. I am fascinated by the posture and movement of people who are ill or damaged. I wonder if the cause is fear of losing control due to Parkinson's, or if perhaps the poisons that cause Parkinson's damage specific muscle and nerves leading to this posture.
I think there are many feedback loops, like being stuck in fear meaning you are exiled from working immune system or detoxification pathways which then make you more susceptible to pathogens and poisoning. But the nocebo effects of diagnosis means the biggest fear becomes the fear of your own body in a vicious circle.
Yes, I'm certain each case of Parkinson's can be a unique set of causes and factors.