1. Your description of the inability to listen is what I have seen all my life. It contributes the fragmenting of organizational structures as a left brain obsession with finance and management cancel out genuine leadership.
2. I have been right brain dominant all my life. It made school difficult. Especially multiple choice tests where I could imagine how every answer could be the correct one. It also meant that I had to work harder to fit in socially. I did so listening and observing. From that practice, I saw patterns of behavior that explained why things were as they are. As a result, where I began to read McGilchrist, while the science was new, his description of right brain dominant life was ver familiar.
Your collection of posts are excellent together. Worthy of revising and publishing as a pamphlet.
Iain McGilchrist's take on the left-right was life-changing for me, if you haven't seen it this short animation is a great introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI . I was extremely left- hemisphere dominant, academically and mathematically gifted. When I read his books, he could have been describing me! It took a chronic illness to start becoming more balanced.
I’ll watch this right away thank you! I don’t believe I’m totally right brain dominant -- I am also very good at math and science, but also somehow am also quite creative. I want to know more about STAYING balanced and becoming more in balance. Thank you!
Like thieves bumping into each other in the night, if I don't say much ... it is because I have so much to digest. Thanks to you.
Bummed out by the fall-out between Sage Hana and Mathew Crawford because I like both. I guess I'll have to start upping my game and sharpen a focus on my own languishing substack.
Just wanted to let you know that the information from you and Toby Rogers is a big influence on me ... and wanted to wish you a belated Merry Christmas, but NOT a happy. new year. 🙃. Why not? ''To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.'' — Gustave Flaubert.
Sorry to hear about your trevails with the Japanese educational board that you relayed on Tessa's post. I unsubscribed from Sage Hana after Matthew revealed the deception... I think "she" overposted anyway, so I tended to switch off. Have a Healthy New Year.
I've chatted a bit with Mathew, but his stats chops, his real bread and butter, are way over my head ... and I find myself often reading or listening in silence, when I can.
Sage was the first person (just recently) for whom I've become a paid subscriber. And 'she' and I have probably shared more quips and comments than anyone else. But now I feel very unsettled. When I think about it, I can't recall 'him' as directly lying about his gender (closer to lies of omission) ... and I do appreciate him for allowing those with a high tolerance for ambiguity to project their frustrations ... but when it turns into blunt Freudian displacement on others?
At the very least, I will turn off automatic yearly payments ... and spend more time listening to and reading the likes of Tessa, Sasha (god, I love that Russian-Ukranian combo!), Toby Rogers, Igor Chudov, and Margaret Anna Alice. Naomi Wolf is fantastic too, only just recently getting into her. And Katherine Watt ... though I have lost all faith in the legal system. (sigh)
It's gonna be a tough year for us all.
If I'm going down, it'll be back-to-back with people like you.
Steve I was similarly bummed by the conflict between Sage Hana and Mathew Crawford. But was reminded by another substack post that the conflict in the med freedom community isn’t important. It’s a noisy sideshow that we can ignore, and keep our eyes on the important wins. I hate to see us fight among ourselves but we’re all just human and it’s bound to happen among people who feel passionately but disagree on what they see as important differences. I sort of appreciated SH’s raw unfliltered observations but recognized that he was pretty negative, seemed to enjoy poking bears from relative anonymity behind a pseudonym which isn’t fair. I also think he’s wrong about our lack of shared history being a shortcoming, preventing us from being a movement. I think the enormity of what the cabal has attempted gives us a strong shared goal. I’m on MC’s side definitely though im not sure he’s correct about why his work hasn’t been embraced more publicly. I don’t know why, but I’m not sure he does either. I think there’s a bit of class conflict that the players don’t recognize as such. I think it’s likely that stew Peter’s died suddenly mistakes were just sloppy mistakes, but once Josh guetzkow called it typical trash by stew peters war was declared between the academic level mfm and the mid level manager mfm. Then you’ve got Breggin and Malone. But didn’t I just say all that is unimportant? Sorry - I ramble 😊
From beginning to end, I found myself nodding in agreement ... particularly when you mentioned class conflict. The dirty little secret of Japan, the U.S., and probably most of the world is how large populations inevitable self-organize into emergent classes, each with values and world-views of their own, and not necessarily in the interest of maintaining society. That makes sense to me because I don't think we are not at our best as 'herd primates' or 'collectivist societal primates', but rather 'social primates' ... families and small communities, maybe Dunbar's number or less. At least at that empathy-driven level of behavior, we have a chance of being more or less egalitarian, and keeping the small percentage of Cluster B's / dark-triads under control.
When I finish reading Lobaczewski. I want to do two things ... 1) write a book review or perhaps even a dummy's guide to Ponerology, if for no other reason than to integrate with my world view, and dove-tail it with Desmet's theory in this whole debacle (and YES, I agree that the external threats to human freedom and dignity are enough to unite us in a single task). And 2) I want to read Isabel Wilkerson's 'Caste' ... and integrate that with what I know about primatology (mostly Frans de Waal), the previous book, and to get a better handle on the self-entitled ruling class.
And rather than rambling ... I reached up to take a closer look at your handle, and thought to myself ... WHATTT??? And I am not yet subscribed?
I don't know if I can keep up the pace, but ramble on my friend. Your rambling makes more sense than my pontification.
Looking forward to reading you!
And have a somewhat happy (not Flaubertian) New Year 😂
Oh thanks for the juicy reply!! So much to chew on - is it inevitable that populations self organize into emergent classes? What defines an emergent class? I've been saying all along we all live with conflicting views both within ourselves, and with people in our social circles. Those conflicts often don't present a problem. We happen to be living in a time where the "true believers" in biotech salvation are attempting to cram their worldview down everybody's throats all at once. I think "they" are so convinced in the reality of their view that they are shocked at the extent of the pushback. Of course it's more complicated than that, but I think it's true. I want to know more about the distinction between herd/collectivist societal primates and social primates. I understand the smaller groups organization (is the Dunbar's number 100/150ish? I remember reading that years ago), but want to know more about what the former would be. Is it a theory, but fictional? But upshot, I am super on board with investing in supporting small communities - as people tend to take good care of themselves and their families when they have the means to. I have been left leaning my entire life, but this debacle completely flipped me - just like the cabal flipped so many foundational values I considered the good part of American culture upside down.
I've never read any Lobaczewski, and I don't know what ponerology is, so I'll have to look all that up. I haven't read Desmet's book, but have heard several interviews with and about him. I think he offers valuable insight, but ultimately I'm not sure we need any mass hypnosis to understand what has happened - at least not among regular people. I think if you understand how abuse operates even (maybe especially) on an interpersonal level, you understand what has happened on a global scale. I really think it's that simple. Think interpersonal abuse (domestic violence, bullying), take it big and that's what we've got. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm open to other theories.
Oh you can keep up the pace!! You probably figured out by now I read a lot more than I write! And I prefer to engage one on one rather than try to decide what to say to a general audience. But I'm experimenting. I have a job and a kids and whatnot. But I was SO HAPPY to find Substack. I have a robust local health freedom community, but they are mostly not nerdy academics, so I have to come here for most of these conversations. I'm still in search of a group of sociologist/anthropologists/similar soc sciencey people with whom to have a support group style community! Shall we start one? I'm completely alienated from my colleagues on all of this. It's been weird and difficult to say the least. I haven't managed to connect with the few speaking publicly. I imagine they get a lot of people trying to connect wtih them in both good and not so good ways.
I love this: "A very interesting thing I learned through my studies of the Nervous System is that folks in states of chronic stress or chronic fear may lose the ability to listen or hear what other people are saying. Not just losing the art of listening, but also that stress literally results in physiological and neurological changes which prevent the brain from being able to hear and process words and speech!"
I think of a friend who so often cannot hear some things.
And of all the people who have been (and often still are) unable to hear due to the induced perma-fear state.
Those against us - not dumb, to instill this perma-fear in order, as you note (like just about everyone) we "find it so hard to get that message across in a culture where so very many folks have succumbed to the politics of fear."
This is one reason why, in my new program, AWAKE in a World Gone "Woke," step one is de-stressing exercises to lower our own level of fear. And I would in fact go on to say that, before engaging in discussion, it might be amazingly powerful to have a joint de-stress time.
By the way, I'd like to send my program to you, for your response. Let me know if you'd like that.
Well put together! Thank you, Gary. You have pulled together several desperate areas of knowledge and research for me in such a way as to confirm my 'intuition...' It is one thing to 'feel' certain about a situation, it is much better to 'feel' and 'know.' Thank you again for the hard work and insights!
The information you share here is SO CONSISTENT with my experiences w friends family and colleagues who have been living in chronic states of fear for three years now. *sigh* really fascinating and pretty discouraging. But even tho not great news, it’s always better to understand exactly what you’re dealing with. I live in such a blue bubble most of the time it has required a deliberately cultivated network of new friends who see through the government and corporate deception.
Two things to say.
1. Your description of the inability to listen is what I have seen all my life. It contributes the fragmenting of organizational structures as a left brain obsession with finance and management cancel out genuine leadership.
2. I have been right brain dominant all my life. It made school difficult. Especially multiple choice tests where I could imagine how every answer could be the correct one. It also meant that I had to work harder to fit in socially. I did so listening and observing. From that practice, I saw patterns of behavior that explained why things were as they are. As a result, where I began to read McGilchrist, while the science was new, his description of right brain dominant life was ver familiar.
Your collection of posts are excellent together. Worthy of revising and publishing as a pamphlet.
I believe I have right brain dominant tendencies as well.
Iain McGilchrist's take on the left-right was life-changing for me, if you haven't seen it this short animation is a great introduction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs9WO2B8uI . I was extremely left- hemisphere dominant, academically and mathematically gifted. When I read his books, he could have been describing me! It took a chronic illness to start becoming more balanced.
I’ll watch this right away thank you! I don’t believe I’m totally right brain dominant -- I am also very good at math and science, but also somehow am also quite creative. I want to know more about STAYING balanced and becoming more in balance. Thank you!
Agree
Hi Gary!
Like thieves bumping into each other in the night, if I don't say much ... it is because I have so much to digest. Thanks to you.
Bummed out by the fall-out between Sage Hana and Mathew Crawford because I like both. I guess I'll have to start upping my game and sharpen a focus on my own languishing substack.
Just wanted to let you know that the information from you and Toby Rogers is a big influence on me ... and wanted to wish you a belated Merry Christmas, but NOT a happy. new year. 🙃. Why not? ''To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.'' — Gustave Flaubert.
Cheers Gary!
steve
Sorry to hear about your trevails with the Japanese educational board that you relayed on Tessa's post. I unsubscribed from Sage Hana after Matthew revealed the deception... I think "she" overposted anyway, so I tended to switch off. Have a Healthy New Year.
Yeah ... I'm torn.
I've chatted a bit with Mathew, but his stats chops, his real bread and butter, are way over my head ... and I find myself often reading or listening in silence, when I can.
Sage was the first person (just recently) for whom I've become a paid subscriber. And 'she' and I have probably shared more quips and comments than anyone else. But now I feel very unsettled. When I think about it, I can't recall 'him' as directly lying about his gender (closer to lies of omission) ... and I do appreciate him for allowing those with a high tolerance for ambiguity to project their frustrations ... but when it turns into blunt Freudian displacement on others?
At the very least, I will turn off automatic yearly payments ... and spend more time listening to and reading the likes of Tessa, Sasha (god, I love that Russian-Ukranian combo!), Toby Rogers, Igor Chudov, and Margaret Anna Alice. Naomi Wolf is fantastic too, only just recently getting into her. And Katherine Watt ... though I have lost all faith in the legal system. (sigh)
It's gonna be a tough year for us all.
If I'm going down, it'll be back-to-back with people like you.
Cheers Gary!
steve
Steve I was similarly bummed by the conflict between Sage Hana and Mathew Crawford. But was reminded by another substack post that the conflict in the med freedom community isn’t important. It’s a noisy sideshow that we can ignore, and keep our eyes on the important wins. I hate to see us fight among ourselves but we’re all just human and it’s bound to happen among people who feel passionately but disagree on what they see as important differences. I sort of appreciated SH’s raw unfliltered observations but recognized that he was pretty negative, seemed to enjoy poking bears from relative anonymity behind a pseudonym which isn’t fair. I also think he’s wrong about our lack of shared history being a shortcoming, preventing us from being a movement. I think the enormity of what the cabal has attempted gives us a strong shared goal. I’m on MC’s side definitely though im not sure he’s correct about why his work hasn’t been embraced more publicly. I don’t know why, but I’m not sure he does either. I think there’s a bit of class conflict that the players don’t recognize as such. I think it’s likely that stew Peter’s died suddenly mistakes were just sloppy mistakes, but once Josh guetzkow called it typical trash by stew peters war was declared between the academic level mfm and the mid level manager mfm. Then you’ve got Breggin and Malone. But didn’t I just say all that is unimportant? Sorry - I ramble 😊
H Harrm,
From beginning to end, I found myself nodding in agreement ... particularly when you mentioned class conflict. The dirty little secret of Japan, the U.S., and probably most of the world is how large populations inevitable self-organize into emergent classes, each with values and world-views of their own, and not necessarily in the interest of maintaining society. That makes sense to me because I don't think we are not at our best as 'herd primates' or 'collectivist societal primates', but rather 'social primates' ... families and small communities, maybe Dunbar's number or less. At least at that empathy-driven level of behavior, we have a chance of being more or less egalitarian, and keeping the small percentage of Cluster B's / dark-triads under control.
When I finish reading Lobaczewski. I want to do two things ... 1) write a book review or perhaps even a dummy's guide to Ponerology, if for no other reason than to integrate with my world view, and dove-tail it with Desmet's theory in this whole debacle (and YES, I agree that the external threats to human freedom and dignity are enough to unite us in a single task). And 2) I want to read Isabel Wilkerson's 'Caste' ... and integrate that with what I know about primatology (mostly Frans de Waal), the previous book, and to get a better handle on the self-entitled ruling class.
And rather than rambling ... I reached up to take a closer look at your handle, and thought to myself ... WHATTT??? And I am not yet subscribed?
I don't know if I can keep up the pace, but ramble on my friend. Your rambling makes more sense than my pontification.
Looking forward to reading you!
And have a somewhat happy (not Flaubertian) New Year 😂
— steve
Oh thanks for the juicy reply!! So much to chew on - is it inevitable that populations self organize into emergent classes? What defines an emergent class? I've been saying all along we all live with conflicting views both within ourselves, and with people in our social circles. Those conflicts often don't present a problem. We happen to be living in a time where the "true believers" in biotech salvation are attempting to cram their worldview down everybody's throats all at once. I think "they" are so convinced in the reality of their view that they are shocked at the extent of the pushback. Of course it's more complicated than that, but I think it's true. I want to know more about the distinction between herd/collectivist societal primates and social primates. I understand the smaller groups organization (is the Dunbar's number 100/150ish? I remember reading that years ago), but want to know more about what the former would be. Is it a theory, but fictional? But upshot, I am super on board with investing in supporting small communities - as people tend to take good care of themselves and their families when they have the means to. I have been left leaning my entire life, but this debacle completely flipped me - just like the cabal flipped so many foundational values I considered the good part of American culture upside down.
I've never read any Lobaczewski, and I don't know what ponerology is, so I'll have to look all that up. I haven't read Desmet's book, but have heard several interviews with and about him. I think he offers valuable insight, but ultimately I'm not sure we need any mass hypnosis to understand what has happened - at least not among regular people. I think if you understand how abuse operates even (maybe especially) on an interpersonal level, you understand what has happened on a global scale. I really think it's that simple. Think interpersonal abuse (domestic violence, bullying), take it big and that's what we've got. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm open to other theories.
Oh you can keep up the pace!! You probably figured out by now I read a lot more than I write! And I prefer to engage one on one rather than try to decide what to say to a general audience. But I'm experimenting. I have a job and a kids and whatnot. But I was SO HAPPY to find Substack. I have a robust local health freedom community, but they are mostly not nerdy academics, so I have to come here for most of these conversations. I'm still in search of a group of sociologist/anthropologists/similar soc sciencey people with whom to have a support group style community! Shall we start one? I'm completely alienated from my colleagues on all of this. It's been weird and difficult to say the least. I haven't managed to connect with the few speaking publicly. I imagine they get a lot of people trying to connect wtih them in both good and not so good ways.
Anyhoo, great to connect, thanks again! Harrm
I highly recommend Harrison's substack if you want to learn more about Ponerology https://ponerology.substack.com/
I love this: "A very interesting thing I learned through my studies of the Nervous System is that folks in states of chronic stress or chronic fear may lose the ability to listen or hear what other people are saying. Not just losing the art of listening, but also that stress literally results in physiological and neurological changes which prevent the brain from being able to hear and process words and speech!"
I think of a friend who so often cannot hear some things.
And of all the people who have been (and often still are) unable to hear due to the induced perma-fear state.
Those against us - not dumb, to instill this perma-fear in order, as you note (like just about everyone) we "find it so hard to get that message across in a culture where so very many folks have succumbed to the politics of fear."
This is one reason why, in my new program, AWAKE in a World Gone "Woke," step one is de-stressing exercises to lower our own level of fear. And I would in fact go on to say that, before engaging in discussion, it might be amazingly powerful to have a joint de-stress time.
By the way, I'd like to send my program to you, for your response. Let me know if you'd like that.
Yes please send, although I can't guarentee a quick turnaround.
Excellent post Gary!!
I learned several things I never knew.
I'll keep this knowledge in my tool bag.
Thanks.
Very interesting! Reminds me of this brilliant rsa animation https://youtu.be/dFs9WO2B8uI
Yes, I often share that as a great way to introduce Iain McGilchrist's work to folks too!
Well put together! Thank you, Gary. You have pulled together several desperate areas of knowledge and research for me in such a way as to confirm my 'intuition...' It is one thing to 'feel' certain about a situation, it is much better to 'feel' and 'know.' Thank you again for the hard work and insights!
Very interesting studies and findings.
Thank you!
You’re so welcome. I just discovered you via your comment on Joel Smalley’s post.
The information you share here is SO CONSISTENT with my experiences w friends family and colleagues who have been living in chronic states of fear for three years now. *sigh* really fascinating and pretty discouraging. But even tho not great news, it’s always better to understand exactly what you’re dealing with. I live in such a blue bubble most of the time it has required a deliberately cultivated network of new friends who see through the government and corporate deception.