I was having a coffee with a friend a few days ago and we were talking about breatharians and our own appreciation of the miracle and gifts of the breathing body... seems synchronistic. I love, love, love it when well intentioned humans work with tech to collaborate for good. Thank you for sharing. It resonates with me. The breath quietly serves our physical form by its interactive dance through the respiratory system and far beyond.
I trained in transformational breathwork and trauma release. I had come to an awareness that I was holding my breath and my breathing was shallow at times... especially when driving. Inhabiting my body with loving kindness and curiosity was not something encouraged in me during childhood. It was modelled as a somewhat irritating, coarse, imprisoning vehicle. One of the first things we learned in breathwork was to observe the belly, the flow and rhythm of the breath and then how to open the breathing. This gentle yet powerful process opened me up to a whole new way of living and being and a profound appreciation of this body's earthly reality.
Since then, for my own self care, I've played around to find what most works for me and created a fusion of both these modalities combined with expressing sacred syllables, sounds and toning. I practice this often to feel optimally healthy, energised and clear.
Great information. I have been measuring and spreadsheeting my HRV every day for over 5 years (Polar Chest Strap) to understand what is happening as I age. It is quite similar but the idea that he can use the tech in the field is exciting.
I monitored my HRV indicators during a bout of cancer for over a year - every day between 7 and 7.15 AM. I do not quite know how to add an image here but the short lesson is that the best fit line over about a week is a great indicator of how you are doing. The comparison between daily readings in quite way out. I will ask Gary if he can put the diagram here somewhere. This applies equally across SDNN,SD1,SD2 and Heart rate values. The last was the least reliable by far. Dr Porges has some software that he gifted me in the early days. There is a 3 day course to learn how to use it. It is designed for processing a large number of files but doing a file every morning is ... a little onerous.
I use Elite HRV app and have 5 Years of daily 5 min reading data I can see trends and match them to situations in my life. I focus on Rmssd score rather than SDNN. SDNN is the gold std but only if using a 24 he Holter monitor. For short readings rmssd is better according to my research. I am about to delve into Porges work to focus more on vagal health to counter my sympathetic. I do HeartMath coherence breathing and yoga.
oh wow, read with rapt attention. Medicine definitely floats my boat! LOVED the image of Samar's tiny speakers singing siren songs into my mastoid bones. People's lymph is always blocked there. until...the little speakers... he will do wonderfully well. The pantheon of plasterboard corporate bureaucrats don't deserve the treasure anyways! Of course they would say no
Not really looking at the corporate market but making it available to the poorest and most remote populations worldwide as an early indicator of something being wrong with the respondent's health. The Autonomic Nervous System is the body's first responder when it seeks to maintain homeostasis. We need no details of a client's age, name, gender, location, symptoms, disease type etc.
Well this is fascinating and awesome! I've got a complex undiagnosed medical condition and I've been doing a significant amount of nervous system work. I'm don't really have connections that can help with it, but I'm interested in it on a personal level. I saw your response to Devaraj, so I'll jump into that group too. Thank you for continuing to expand my perspective!
The mechanisms seem plausible, but I would need to see some pretty substantive evidence to be persuaded that all of this info can really be gleaned with such a simple and abbreviated measure. I know that's what you're trying to do, test it to get that evidence. I'll definitely keep my eye out for opportunities to do so, but they've made good faith clinical research so onerous... Big pharma can pay a few hundred thousand to an IRB for a rubber stamp approval while everyone else has to make it past a board that these days has at least one HR type holier than thou busibody with no real sense of risk, benefit, and tradeoffs.
Anyway, I digress, maybe I could set up a time to chat with Samar to see about pursuing military human performance applications. I'll I'd be able to do is forward the info up the chain where there are a million less promising initiatives competing for attention.
There are some things I am less confident about like the accuracy of the Theta waves. What I can say is that we seem to be able to predict an oncoming seizure and it seems we can use a breathing protocol to dilute it or stop it happening. The other thing we can do for sure is to see if your ANS is able to cope with a challenge to your immune system. Finally I routinely monitor children with ASD during an intervention to see if they dysregulate and if they do, stop that intervention in seconds. I work largely with children with ASD so over 6k readings one can get an idea if something is what it is meant to be or not.
I haven't learned how to access "notes". I would like to see the slide deck. Could someone tell me how to do that? Appreciate that.
And the only downside to this, it's not monetizable. I agree and believe in it seeing firsthand the effects of breathing for my PT clients. Modern medicine wants money. I hope I am wrong. Mother nature has the answers.
Can you see the embedded notes? You should be able to click on the images and bring up the Note, e.g. can you see this https://substack.com/profile/32671565-gary-sharpe/note/c-14775253 ? [I just tried it in an incognito window and it seemed to work]. If so click on one of the slides and it should bring up a slideshow which you can sweep left or right]. Yes, I agree the low cost is why samar has not had much interest from doctors.
I am attaching an Executive summary of a more detailed document.
ExecutiveSummary
• There are stark deficits for the lowest socioeconomic segments of our society in terms of access to healthcare - for physiological and mental health which is exacerbated in remote rural areas. This becomes more critical for female health particularly mental health.
• Our method requires a smartphone and two minutes of an individual’s time to upload an observation from his/her home or workplace. A simple output, which indicates when the probability of the need for medical intervention may be required can be available on the same smartphone in seconds. This and other outputs can be shared e.g to the nearest Primary Health Care Center.
• Daily early morning readings would facilitate early warning.
• This methodology has already been used for determining the state, and the trend of that state, for well over a hundred clients over a period of about 5 years. More than 6000 observations are available on our website. These have been used to analyse and report client states and trends.
• Our method is non-invasive and indeed readings can be taken while the client is sleeping.
• In specific instances, such as seizures it has been possible to predict a seizure and prevent a potential following seizure in one case.
• This document specifies a proposal by which we could - in collaboration with an appropriate institution - implement a near zero cost system for providing early warning for those most deprived of medical access, of a state of health which necessitates medical intervention. This process would link to the existing health care system.
• We are confident that much more can be achieved if a collaboration can be initiated. Early warning of disease states can conserve scarce resources.
A couple of years ago, I learned an interesting type of breathing dubbed "pipe breathing".
It's a way of exhaling while stimulating the vagus nerve.
I prefer to breathe out with my nose instead of the mouth though. I learned later that was called "ocean breath" because of the sound it makes when you breathe out the nose.
I'm sure there's tons of exercises that teach this but this one was easy to follow and helped me a lot to learn the key basics of breathing without the mumbo jumbo.
The video also teaches the importance of belly breathing instead of the tight way of breathing through the ribcage.
Open the description box to see the time stamps of the different parts of the program.
I was having a coffee with a friend a few days ago and we were talking about breatharians and our own appreciation of the miracle and gifts of the breathing body... seems synchronistic. I love, love, love it when well intentioned humans work with tech to collaborate for good. Thank you for sharing. It resonates with me. The breath quietly serves our physical form by its interactive dance through the respiratory system and far beyond.
I trained in transformational breathwork and trauma release. I had come to an awareness that I was holding my breath and my breathing was shallow at times... especially when driving. Inhabiting my body with loving kindness and curiosity was not something encouraged in me during childhood. It was modelled as a somewhat irritating, coarse, imprisoning vehicle. One of the first things we learned in breathwork was to observe the belly, the flow and rhythm of the breath and then how to open the breathing. This gentle yet powerful process opened me up to a whole new way of living and being and a profound appreciation of this body's earthly reality.
Since then, for my own self care, I've played around to find what most works for me and created a fusion of both these modalities combined with expressing sacred syllables, sounds and toning. I practice this often to feel optimally healthy, energised and clear.
you go girl, that's all i got to say
Great information. I have been measuring and spreadsheeting my HRV every day for over 5 years (Polar Chest Strap) to understand what is happening as I age. It is quite similar but the idea that he can use the tech in the field is exciting.
I am just uploading a compare and contrast slidedeck between HRV and RP measures to Notes, which I will also embed in the article...
I monitored my HRV indicators during a bout of cancer for over a year - every day between 7 and 7.15 AM. I do not quite know how to add an image here but the short lesson is that the best fit line over about a week is a great indicator of how you are doing. The comparison between daily readings in quite way out. I will ask Gary if he can put the diagram here somewhere. This applies equally across SDNN,SD1,SD2 and Heart rate values. The last was the least reliable by far. Dr Porges has some software that he gifted me in the early days. There is a 3 day course to learn how to use it. It is designed for processing a large number of files but doing a file every morning is ... a little onerous.
I use Elite HRV app and have 5 Years of daily 5 min reading data I can see trends and match them to situations in my life. I focus on Rmssd score rather than SDNN. SDNN is the gold std but only if using a 24 he Holter monitor. For short readings rmssd is better according to my research. I am about to delve into Porges work to focus more on vagal health to counter my sympathetic. I do HeartMath coherence breathing and yoga.
oh wow, read with rapt attention. Medicine definitely floats my boat! LOVED the image of Samar's tiny speakers singing siren songs into my mastoid bones. People's lymph is always blocked there. until...the little speakers... he will do wonderfully well. The pantheon of plasterboard corporate bureaucrats don't deserve the treasure anyways! Of course they would say no
Not really looking at the corporate market but making it available to the poorest and most remote populations worldwide as an early indicator of something being wrong with the respondent's health. The Autonomic Nervous System is the body's first responder when it seeks to maintain homeostasis. We need no details of a client's age, name, gender, location, symptoms, disease type etc.
Well this is fascinating and awesome! I've got a complex undiagnosed medical condition and I've been doing a significant amount of nervous system work. I'm don't really have connections that can help with it, but I'm interested in it on a personal level. I saw your response to Devaraj, so I'll jump into that group too. Thank you for continuing to expand my perspective!
I restacked it - in case anyone in the relevant fields can help.
Thank you!!!
Pleasure. It sounds promising!
Update, I have used Notes to embed the slidedeck presentation into the article! Perhaps Notes does have its uses after all!
Hey Gary, interesting stuff. How can I find out more about Samar Singh's app please?
Alternatively, if you put in a request to join the Vagus Study Group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/VagusStudyGroup I can point you to some presentations we made there.
Update, I have now included the slidedeck using Notes.
I can email a slide deck presentation we made?
Hi, feel free to email me at samarsingh1905@outlook.com with any questions.
The mechanisms seem plausible, but I would need to see some pretty substantive evidence to be persuaded that all of this info can really be gleaned with such a simple and abbreviated measure. I know that's what you're trying to do, test it to get that evidence. I'll definitely keep my eye out for opportunities to do so, but they've made good faith clinical research so onerous... Big pharma can pay a few hundred thousand to an IRB for a rubber stamp approval while everyone else has to make it past a board that these days has at least one HR type holier than thou busibody with no real sense of risk, benefit, and tradeoffs.
Anyway, I digress, maybe I could set up a time to chat with Samar to see about pursuing military human performance applications. I'll I'd be able to do is forward the info up the chain where there are a million less promising initiatives competing for attention.
There are some things I am less confident about like the accuracy of the Theta waves. What I can say is that we seem to be able to predict an oncoming seizure and it seems we can use a breathing protocol to dilute it or stop it happening. The other thing we can do for sure is to see if your ANS is able to cope with a challenge to your immune system. Finally I routinely monitor children with ASD during an intervention to see if they dysregulate and if they do, stop that intervention in seconds. I work largely with children with ASD so over 6k readings one can get an idea if something is what it is meant to be or not.
awesome!
You are welcome to email me at samarsingh1905@outlook.com
I haven't learned how to access "notes". I would like to see the slide deck. Could someone tell me how to do that? Appreciate that.
And the only downside to this, it's not monetizable. I agree and believe in it seeing firsthand the effects of breathing for my PT clients. Modern medicine wants money. I hope I am wrong. Mother nature has the answers.
Can you see the embedded notes? You should be able to click on the images and bring up the Note, e.g. can you see this https://substack.com/profile/32671565-gary-sharpe/note/c-14775253 ? [I just tried it in an incognito window and it seemed to work]. If so click on one of the slides and it should bring up a slideshow which you can sweep left or right]. Yes, I agree the low cost is why samar has not had much interest from doctors.
i may also ask you for this confirmation again - i'm still a little lost on the notes and must learn my link.
How does one go about logging in to Samar’s website?
I think you need to contact him, it is not open access.
I am attaching an Executive summary of a more detailed document.
ExecutiveSummary
• There are stark deficits for the lowest socioeconomic segments of our society in terms of access to healthcare - for physiological and mental health which is exacerbated in remote rural areas. This becomes more critical for female health particularly mental health.
• Our method requires a smartphone and two minutes of an individual’s time to upload an observation from his/her home or workplace. A simple output, which indicates when the probability of the need for medical intervention may be required can be available on the same smartphone in seconds. This and other outputs can be shared e.g to the nearest Primary Health Care Center.
• Daily early morning readings would facilitate early warning.
• This methodology has already been used for determining the state, and the trend of that state, for well over a hundred clients over a period of about 5 years. More than 6000 observations are available on our website. These have been used to analyse and report client states and trends.
• Our method is non-invasive and indeed readings can be taken while the client is sleeping.
• In specific instances, such as seizures it has been possible to predict a seizure and prevent a potential following seizure in one case.
• This document specifies a proposal by which we could - in collaboration with an appropriate institution - implement a near zero cost system for providing early warning for those most deprived of medical access, of a state of health which necessitates medical intervention. This process would link to the existing health care system.
• We are confident that much more can be achieved if a collaboration can be initiated. Early warning of disease states can conserve scarce resources.
A couple of years ago, I learned an interesting type of breathing dubbed "pipe breathing".
It's a way of exhaling while stimulating the vagus nerve.
I prefer to breathe out with my nose instead of the mouth though. I learned later that was called "ocean breath" because of the sound it makes when you breathe out the nose.
I'm sure there's tons of exercises that teach this but this one was easy to follow and helped me a lot to learn the key basics of breathing without the mumbo jumbo.
The video also teaches the importance of belly breathing instead of the tight way of breathing through the ribcage.
Open the description box to see the time stamps of the different parts of the program.
https://youtu.be/ytj4O_Q7Xbg
Fascinating! I would like to see the slides. You may use 0uj1lbzithn8@wegwerpmailadres.nl for that.
Andrew Huberman says he reads all comments on YouTube. I would wait till Monday and put the question under his newest podcast.
I have now embedded the presentation slidedeck into the article.