The nocebo effect is something that's been on my mind lately. The black pill delivered by the white coat is an especially horrifying form of it. The "doctors" who push it are putting themselves in grave spiritual danger.
I highly recommend Huberman's interview with Dr Alia Crum which explores just how profound these expectation effects are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFR_wFN23ZY . The medical system seems to be self-selecting of certain trauma survival styles, and the training is further traumatizing and self-selecting to weed out those who are resistant to the indoctrination. The ones that get through it are already spiritually compromised and de-humanized.
Yes, an utter horror. Next: kill infants at birth because everyone is one a one-way road to death - might as well get it done sooner than later. Or better, no births - it prevents sickness and death. (I am sure some people actually believe this!)
Death is the end. That is how it should be treated. If there is no way to live, because of pain, terminal illness, and preferably, old age, if all these combined make someone decide to end their life, I could agree. In all other cases, modern medicine has failed. Offering suicide is confessing they don't know - a very sad thing after all these years. Why don't they find a cure instead of 'suiciding' people?
INdeed! And while people live on with the illness, they might discover a new treatment or find out there is already one they did not know of (I recently found several cures for cancer hardly anyone knows about, trying to send them to friends, maybe helping someone)
also now in Canada people facing eviction, homelessness and hopelessness are able to request MAID, (which i think should be named Medically Assisted Death, MAD)
My father had to be hospitalized from pneumonia as a result of his cancer treatment destroying his immune system. The doctors immediately put him on a ventilator and a group of them came to tell us that if, or when, he awakened from his medical coma, he may never be the same. They insinuated that his mental capacity might be impaired and we would be unable to care for him. Nothing like pressuring us to pull the plug on daddy! We stayed with him most of the time while he was in the hospital. Thank the Lord my brother was there because they almost killed him when the attendant turned off the ventilator to clean it, and “forgot” to turn it back on! He caught it and quickly reported the problem. Never leave your loved ones to the mercy of the death doula system! Daddy did recover and came back home to be with us and live several months with his cancer. He was so happy for each day!
Yes, I would be concerned if either of my parents went into hospital for anything that they would never come out alive. I tell them just don't get sick!
“Once a person is given the choice between life and death, he will rightly be perceived as the agent of his own survival. Whereas his existence is ordinarily viewed as a given for him - as a fixed condition with which he must cope - formally offering him the option of euthanasia will cause his existence thereafter to be viewed as his doing.
The problem with this perception is that if others regard you as choosing a state of affairs, they will hold you responsible for it; and if they hold you responsible for a state of affairs, they can ask you to justify it. Hence if people ever come to regard you as existing by choice, they may expect you to justify your continued existence. If your daily arrival in the office is interpreted as meaning that you have once again declined to kill yourself, you may feel obliged to arrive with an answer to the question 'Why not?'.”
The offer of death puts some of the most vulnerable people in society in a more precarious position. Even the mere offer of death does this, as the chooser must justify, if only to themselves, whether they should continue living.
Well said. Reminds me of facebook now saying they are going to use your posts and photos to feed their AI, and if you want out you need to write an essay why they should let you opt out...
The medical profession in conjunction with Big Pharma does not operate to cure disease; it operates by managing illness, pain, etc. It still chiefly operates using the mechanistic model of the body, and of the brain, which is where the mind is seated. Since this thinking dominates, for them, if they can see no option to manage the illness or the pain, the rational default decision is MAID, which is just a state-sanctioned suicide.
Now, if the medical profession would take a holistic approach, and view the mind as connected to the body, and as having the power to heal, then much of what the pharma industry sells in the way of pain or illness management (e.g., diabetes, hypertension, cholesterol, etc.) would not be required.
So, yes, there is a conflict of interest at work here. And the primary interest is not with the individual (the patient), but with the corporation pushing a pharma solution that is really no solution at all.
We must stop deifying medical professionals. They are not gods, though many of them believe they know more than they do. They are taught to trust in the averages. You are not average and never were you a number though that is how we are viewed. Even if you suffer pain and feel like you are a burden to others, those who are supporting or working with you are gaining insight into their own lives through your mere presence. Stay with us…please.
It happens often in the USA with hospice care. My 84 yo dad fell and broke his hip. They deemed no surgery, sent him home on hospice and morphine. 1.5 days later the morphine had suppressed his respiration to the point he quit breathing. He did not die from a broken hip, he died from morphine overdose!
Sorry to hear this. Living in a carehome in the UK, I have witnessed it several times, they just decide on a whim one day that because a long time resident is just under the weather, it is time for them to die, and they stop feeding them and give them morphine.
I am glad that you brought this up , Gary . The path way to the bridge is a really important experience for both the travelers and their walking partners - When this is reduced to a moment of chemical control , we reduce ourselves to nothing more than an old car getting put in a crusher machine . There are SO many strange stories about this special space of time - that it really should be something that we WANT to discover and travel on . I just read an account of a woman who suffered from Epilepsy . She seized , died , and was buried . Her sister arrived the day after the burial , and demanded to dig up the box as she wanted to see her sister one last time .... up came the coffin , opened out , and the woman sat up and got out ! She lived almost fifty more years after that . I have had two experiences with this , one , the patients husband said " Do not open the box " that had been brought into the house via hospice . In the other case , the patients daughter had me pick up fentanyl at the pharmacy , at the time , I did not know what I was picking up , and I was never asked before or after to pick up meds . I did quit that position before my patient died , and she died because the fentanyl patch was placed on her body . That after she was NOT allowed to stop eating , which she wanted to do . I have had to leave the idea of doing care work , because of the confusion of the people who are managing the situations . It is not a pretty picture .
"I guess we can all envisage cases where assisted dying, at the right time, is a true mercy"-I think that very sentiment begins at the top of the slope which leads inevitably to subjective sliding down to MAiD for anything. The only "true mercy" killing would be something like that scene in Lawrence of Arabia when the poor gut-shot fellow with no chance to get out of the desert and a truly painful death as well as capture and torture by Moors was the only other possible outcome. It's hard to see people suffer. We don't like it. We don't like to think that we also must suffer. But offering "mercy" killing to a sick loved one is not merciful to them-it's for us so that we don't have to see that or be put upon by it. I just don't understand what part of "thou shalt not kill" is so hard to understand.
No it isn't! And it really isn't that difficult to find out what meds are used and what they will do, or to imagine you or your loved one going through it. I am just not sure how a person can delude themselves that this is peaceful!
I’ve said it before, ‘Never give up’ and other people have said it better;
“This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in …. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” Winston Churchill
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I slightly mangled Churchill’s quote because to me never means NEVER.
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What if your purpose in life now is to continue to be an example for others?
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Some people need a purpose or their life isn’t worth living and being the man who stands and faces his fate, even if leaning on a tree to stay upright, can inspire others to also stay the course.
.
Sometimes people need a hero, who although not perfect, stands firm in the face of certain death?
.
We all face that you know, face certain death?.
We need someone who defies all odds and all learned opinion and all common sense.
.
I sense another quote arising from the mists “Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat” Confucius
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I know, I know, I read too much and believe that a thing well said is worth stealing and using as my own… always with quotes.
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I practice the ancient art of “a kind word” I try to lift someone’s spirit every day. I am an extraordinarily selfish person, by default, I was born that way, but noticed along time’s journey that others could not see the things that I could. That one word might change a person’s life.
.
We all remember battles that we have won, where angry words were exchanged, “get out of my way or I will kill you.” Not those words.
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But words that lifted someone’s spirit and rekindled the light in their eye.
.
I am on the road now and am doing this in a coffee shop and must rush so more later…
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Did I mention that I discovered in my research that some now consider Parkinson’s to be only 10% genetic and 90% environmental?
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So many toxins, so little time.
.
If you took those odds to any casino in the world you would walk out a winner.
Thanks, Gary, for writing about such an important topic. From the time they started expanding the program, I've been watching this dossier pretty closely. I can't help but sense that there's something very, very wrong with this picture. Here's a bit of coverage that might be of interest:
How disgusting… my 89 year old dad just was given the clear from stage 4 colon cancer .. all the Drs swore it was gonna kill him … he’s finally stopping that ridiculous maintenance chemo they conned him into ..
Only God knows when your time is up. Until then .. fight with all you have 🙏❤️😄
Yikes! The very idea of trapping a soul. Even Hindus believe in reincarnation over and over until the soul moves to it's final "God" destination and finally finished with the journey. They actually celebrate their relatives moving forward to the next level and their journey.
One last comment. I think you are onto to something very very big. Could be why suicide is frowned on as well. We just should never surrender our souls. We hopefully can help others cope thru, but there are probably reasons why some must endure more hardship while waiting. I believe some have the strength to become fine examples for us. Acention.
The nocebo effect is something that's been on my mind lately. The black pill delivered by the white coat is an especially horrifying form of it. The "doctors" who push it are putting themselves in grave spiritual danger.
I highly recommend Huberman's interview with Dr Alia Crum which explores just how profound these expectation effects are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFR_wFN23ZY . The medical system seems to be self-selecting of certain trauma survival styles, and the training is further traumatizing and self-selecting to weed out those who are resistant to the indoctrination. The ones that get through it are already spiritually compromised and de-humanized.
Well said. Deeply dysfunctional.
Yes, an utter horror. Next: kill infants at birth because everyone is one a one-way road to death - might as well get it done sooner than later. Or better, no births - it prevents sickness and death. (I am sure some people actually believe this!)
yes anti-human, anti-life, death cult
Death is the end. That is how it should be treated. If there is no way to live, because of pain, terminal illness, and preferably, old age, if all these combined make someone decide to end their life, I could agree. In all other cases, modern medicine has failed. Offering suicide is confessing they don't know - a very sad thing after all these years. Why don't they find a cure instead of 'suiciding' people?
I agree.
Also, why not see that life may be very worth living even if one has a major illness.
INdeed! And while people live on with the illness, they might discover a new treatment or find out there is already one they did not know of (I recently found several cures for cancer hardly anyone knows about, trying to send them to friends, maybe helping someone)
Agreed.
also now in Canada people facing eviction, homelessness and hopelessness are able to request MAID, (which i think should be named Medically Assisted Death, MAD)
Yes, I have gathered a few news articles already on these types of incidents.
Suicide help
My father had to be hospitalized from pneumonia as a result of his cancer treatment destroying his immune system. The doctors immediately put him on a ventilator and a group of them came to tell us that if, or when, he awakened from his medical coma, he may never be the same. They insinuated that his mental capacity might be impaired and we would be unable to care for him. Nothing like pressuring us to pull the plug on daddy! We stayed with him most of the time while he was in the hospital. Thank the Lord my brother was there because they almost killed him when the attendant turned off the ventilator to clean it, and “forgot” to turn it back on! He caught it and quickly reported the problem. Never leave your loved ones to the mercy of the death doula system! Daddy did recover and came back home to be with us and live several months with his cancer. He was so happy for each day!
Yes, I would be concerned if either of my parents went into hospital for anything that they would never come out alive. I tell them just don't get sick!
David Velleman wrote:
“Once a person is given the choice between life and death, he will rightly be perceived as the agent of his own survival. Whereas his existence is ordinarily viewed as a given for him - as a fixed condition with which he must cope - formally offering him the option of euthanasia will cause his existence thereafter to be viewed as his doing.
The problem with this perception is that if others regard you as choosing a state of affairs, they will hold you responsible for it; and if they hold you responsible for a state of affairs, they can ask you to justify it. Hence if people ever come to regard you as existing by choice, they may expect you to justify your continued existence. If your daily arrival in the office is interpreted as meaning that you have once again declined to kill yourself, you may feel obliged to arrive with an answer to the question 'Why not?'.”
The offer of death puts some of the most vulnerable people in society in a more precarious position. Even the mere offer of death does this, as the chooser must justify, if only to themselves, whether they should continue living.
Well said. Reminds me of facebook now saying they are going to use your posts and photos to feed their AI, and if you want out you need to write an essay why they should let you opt out...
Oof.
The medical profession in conjunction with Big Pharma does not operate to cure disease; it operates by managing illness, pain, etc. It still chiefly operates using the mechanistic model of the body, and of the brain, which is where the mind is seated. Since this thinking dominates, for them, if they can see no option to manage the illness or the pain, the rational default decision is MAID, which is just a state-sanctioned suicide.
Now, if the medical profession would take a holistic approach, and view the mind as connected to the body, and as having the power to heal, then much of what the pharma industry sells in the way of pain or illness management (e.g., diabetes, hypertension, cholesterol, etc.) would not be required.
So, yes, there is a conflict of interest at work here. And the primary interest is not with the individual (the patient), but with the corporation pushing a pharma solution that is really no solution at all.
Yes, well said!
Thank you, Gary; at least my engineering education did not go to waste. It did teach me how to think critically, as the saying goes.🕊🦜
We must stop deifying medical professionals. They are not gods, though many of them believe they know more than they do. They are taught to trust in the averages. You are not average and never were you a number though that is how we are viewed. Even if you suffer pain and feel like you are a burden to others, those who are supporting or working with you are gaining insight into their own lives through your mere presence. Stay with us…please.
It happens often in the USA with hospice care. My 84 yo dad fell and broke his hip. They deemed no surgery, sent him home on hospice and morphine. 1.5 days later the morphine had suppressed his respiration to the point he quit breathing. He did not die from a broken hip, he died from morphine overdose!
Sorry to hear this. Living in a carehome in the UK, I have witnessed it several times, they just decide on a whim one day that because a long time resident is just under the weather, it is time for them to die, and they stop feeding them and give them morphine.
All in the guise of “keeping him comfortable.”
I am glad that you brought this up , Gary . The path way to the bridge is a really important experience for both the travelers and their walking partners - When this is reduced to a moment of chemical control , we reduce ourselves to nothing more than an old car getting put in a crusher machine . There are SO many strange stories about this special space of time - that it really should be something that we WANT to discover and travel on . I just read an account of a woman who suffered from Epilepsy . She seized , died , and was buried . Her sister arrived the day after the burial , and demanded to dig up the box as she wanted to see her sister one last time .... up came the coffin , opened out , and the woman sat up and got out ! She lived almost fifty more years after that . I have had two experiences with this , one , the patients husband said " Do not open the box " that had been brought into the house via hospice . In the other case , the patients daughter had me pick up fentanyl at the pharmacy , at the time , I did not know what I was picking up , and I was never asked before or after to pick up meds . I did quit that position before my patient died , and she died because the fentanyl patch was placed on her body . That after she was NOT allowed to stop eating , which she wanted to do . I have had to leave the idea of doing care work , because of the confusion of the people who are managing the situations . It is not a pretty picture .
Read “The Kevorkian Oath”. Fiction by a retired surgeon. Gives an interesting picture.
OK, I will check it out.
"I guess we can all envisage cases where assisted dying, at the right time, is a true mercy"-I think that very sentiment begins at the top of the slope which leads inevitably to subjective sliding down to MAiD for anything. The only "true mercy" killing would be something like that scene in Lawrence of Arabia when the poor gut-shot fellow with no chance to get out of the desert and a truly painful death as well as capture and torture by Moors was the only other possible outcome. It's hard to see people suffer. We don't like it. We don't like to think that we also must suffer. But offering "mercy" killing to a sick loved one is not merciful to them-it's for us so that we don't have to see that or be put upon by it. I just don't understand what part of "thou shalt not kill" is so hard to understand.
I agree. I also looked into the actual procedure of MAID and it isn't pleasant or a good death.
No it isn't! And it really isn't that difficult to find out what meds are used and what they will do, or to imagine you or your loved one going through it. I am just not sure how a person can delude themselves that this is peaceful!
I’ve said it before, ‘Never give up’ and other people have said it better;
“This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in …. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” Winston Churchill
.
I slightly mangled Churchill’s quote because to me never means NEVER.
.
What if your purpose in life now is to continue to be an example for others?
.
Some people need a purpose or their life isn’t worth living and being the man who stands and faces his fate, even if leaning on a tree to stay upright, can inspire others to also stay the course.
.
Sometimes people need a hero, who although not perfect, stands firm in the face of certain death?
.
We all face that you know, face certain death?.
We need someone who defies all odds and all learned opinion and all common sense.
.
I sense another quote arising from the mists “Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat” Confucius
.
I know, I know, I read too much and believe that a thing well said is worth stealing and using as my own… always with quotes.
.
I practice the ancient art of “a kind word” I try to lift someone’s spirit every day. I am an extraordinarily selfish person, by default, I was born that way, but noticed along time’s journey that others could not see the things that I could. That one word might change a person’s life.
.
We all remember battles that we have won, where angry words were exchanged, “get out of my way or I will kill you.” Not those words.
.
But words that lifted someone’s spirit and rekindled the light in their eye.
.
I am on the road now and am doing this in a coffee shop and must rush so more later…
.
Did I mention that I discovered in my research that some now consider Parkinson’s to be only 10% genetic and 90% environmental?
.
So many toxins, so little time.
.
If you took those odds to any casino in the world you would walk out a winner.
Thanks, Gary, for writing about such an important topic. From the time they started expanding the program, I've been watching this dossier pretty closely. I can't help but sense that there's something very, very wrong with this picture. Here's a bit of coverage that might be of interest:
The Kayla Pollock story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxyLdirlU6k
The Normand Meunier story: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/assisted-death-quadriplegic-quebec-man-er-bed-sore-1.7171209
A report on "How poverty, not pain, is driving some disabled Canadians towards medically assisted death": https://globalnews.ca/video/9185358/how-poverty-not-pain-is-driving-some-disabled-canadians-towards-medically-assisted-death
As a bonus, this Senate committee transcript from 2021 is a long read, but quite illuminating. To add to the concerns around MAID being a last resort well before one should be considering last resorts, there are further concerns about certain possible unintended consequences of the drug cocktail — ref.: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/practitioner-professional-resources/pharmacare/pharmacies/product-identification-numbers/maid-pins and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9270985/ — used in the administration of MAID, as well as a number of issues which may or may not have been addressed since they were raised in 2021, 2022. I'd point you specifically to Dr. Zivot's comments, and the dismissive rebuttal he's served: https://sencanada.ca/en/Content/Sen/Committee/432/LCJC/11EV-55129-E
Thanks very much for all these sources of further info - I will go down this rabbit hole...
How disgusting… my 89 year old dad just was given the clear from stage 4 colon cancer .. all the Drs swore it was gonna kill him … he’s finally stopping that ridiculous maintenance chemo they conned him into ..
Only God knows when your time is up. Until then .. fight with all you have 🙏❤️😄
Yikes! The very idea of trapping a soul. Even Hindus believe in reincarnation over and over until the soul moves to it's final "God" destination and finally finished with the journey. They actually celebrate their relatives moving forward to the next level and their journey.
One last comment. I think you are onto to something very very big. Could be why suicide is frowned on as well. We just should never surrender our souls. We hopefully can help others cope thru, but there are probably reasons why some must endure more hardship while waiting. I believe some have the strength to become fine examples for us. Acention.
ooh boy has this been on my mind. i too definitely noticed!