I watched the Butoh performance and what I noticed was that the music made me feel much more uncomfortable than his movements. When I turned down the volume I could enjoy those amazing movements that look like jerks but there’s such a huge of amount of control and precision in them. Wow.
As to the music it fits Steven Porges’s theory that high/low pitch tones trigger the sympathetic NS.
I experience the same... it was the discordance of the music that I noticed I was responding to and like you, I found the performance of the body fascinating.
I so related to the trauma relevance to deep feeling. ACE's, mirror neurons, need to honor boundaries...all have highly impacted my life. I've noticed for myself that even hearing someone talk until they are running out of breath for their utterance gets me deep breathing. Also seeing someone hunched over gets me standing/ sitting up straighter- almost as if to offer them relief, yet I feel I am sensing the constraints myself. I've also noticed always being impacted when someone in my family is watching "funny videos" when accidents or falls occur. Not so funny, but I always find myself looking away. I'm always wondering how injured they wound up! Not my idea of entertainment. Another great thought provoking and relatable post Gary.
Yes, I have the same empathic reaction to those types of tv shows - can't watch them anymore. I also can't watch zombie films or tv shows, as this feels like my rigidity/stiffness symptoms...
Oct 23, 2022·edited Oct 23, 2022Liked by Gary Sharpe
Interesting, although uncomfortable effect. Personally, I cannot watch intense drama or criminal shows as I notice my hypervigilance keys up and I grow fidgety and restless.
Although it seems to be moreso these past two + years anyways as we are living in the midst of a "criminal episode". Absolutely a "no" for zombie films for me too. If someone in the house is watching intense programs, I have to leave the room and get out of sound range. They've grown accustomed to not watching them in my presence, thank goodness! Sometimes silence is best.😌
When one of my sons was quite young, he had so much energy I used to call him a space invader. ( He found it humorous as he thought of outer space.) I could feel his energy blast me just as he'd enter the room I was in. Like being hit with a wind gust, despite his not even saying anything. To this day, he still has a similar effect, although it's more just various excess noise he makes as he moves around. It literally makes me jump/startle frequently. It's so unsettling and leaves me feeling guilty for feeling this as I'm his mom.
I closely (personally) relate to what youve written. If we dont take personal responsibility to protect our auras, physical & psychic boundaries someone/thing else is actively striving to; in most cases, succeeding. Their 'agent Smith' [Matrix] is in each of our homes disguised as a TV. Turn them off.
Nov 24, 2022·edited Nov 24, 2022Liked by Gary Sharpe
It's not just people with chronic conditions who are affected by the "vibes" of those around them. My mother used to come to the country with me, along with a care giver. I remember that I was SEVERELY allergic to one. She came only once. Then, I'm thinking of someone else - painfully negative (for me, anyway). I have a major allergic reaction to her. I also have profoundly positive reactions to some people. Again, I'm thinking of someone. I can feel my body relax at the thought of her.
Also, you mention Steven Porges (I think I have the spelling right). He's one of the experts in a favorite site I've long subscribed to - on neuro-biology. The name is a mouthful: National Institute for the Application of Behavioral Medicine.
Thats interesting. I have realized there are definitely toxic people, but had not thought we could be literally allergic to certain people. Makes sense to me. Yes the NIABM is putting out some useful materials.
very interesting concepts here, made me think! Also I appreciated that you make a distinction between explaining something and excusing it, something I find is often not done (in a general sense I mean, not only specifically to your topic).
Thank you, yes for these sensitive topics it is important both not to excuse and also not blame or shame people. I guess I learned that because those of us with trauma tend to be prone to feel these things deeply.
I watched the Butoh performance and what I noticed was that the music made me feel much more uncomfortable than his movements. When I turned down the volume I could enjoy those amazing movements that look like jerks but there’s such a huge of amount of control and precision in them. Wow.
As to the music it fits Steven Porges’s theory that high/low pitch tones trigger the sympathetic NS.
Yes, I should have said to listen with the sound off because of the jarring nature of the music itself. For me, it is still very disturbing to watch.
I experience the same... it was the discordance of the music that I noticed I was responding to and like you, I found the performance of the body fascinating.
Yeah the music sounds disharmonious.
His movements looked more like a martial arts kata to me, than jerky.
More Bruce Lee, less parkinson's.
Music is the same reason why a badly acted show can move me, as long as it's not so artificial.
I so related to the trauma relevance to deep feeling. ACE's, mirror neurons, need to honor boundaries...all have highly impacted my life. I've noticed for myself that even hearing someone talk until they are running out of breath for their utterance gets me deep breathing. Also seeing someone hunched over gets me standing/ sitting up straighter- almost as if to offer them relief, yet I feel I am sensing the constraints myself. I've also noticed always being impacted when someone in my family is watching "funny videos" when accidents or falls occur. Not so funny, but I always find myself looking away. I'm always wondering how injured they wound up! Not my idea of entertainment. Another great thought provoking and relatable post Gary.
Yes, I have the same empathic reaction to those types of tv shows - can't watch them anymore. I also can't watch zombie films or tv shows, as this feels like my rigidity/stiffness symptoms...
Interesting, although uncomfortable effect. Personally, I cannot watch intense drama or criminal shows as I notice my hypervigilance keys up and I grow fidgety and restless.
Although it seems to be moreso these past two + years anyways as we are living in the midst of a "criminal episode". Absolutely a "no" for zombie films for me too. If someone in the house is watching intense programs, I have to leave the room and get out of sound range. They've grown accustomed to not watching them in my presence, thank goodness! Sometimes silence is best.😌
When one of my sons was quite young, he had so much energy I used to call him a space invader. ( He found it humorous as he thought of outer space.) I could feel his energy blast me just as he'd enter the room I was in. Like being hit with a wind gust, despite his not even saying anything. To this day, he still has a similar effect, although it's more just various excess noise he makes as he moves around. It literally makes me jump/startle frequently. It's so unsettling and leaves me feeling guilty for feeling this as I'm his mom.
I closely (personally) relate to what youve written. If we dont take personal responsibility to protect our auras, physical & psychic boundaries someone/thing else is actively striving to; in most cases, succeeding. Their 'agent Smith' [Matrix] is in each of our homes disguised as a TV. Turn them off.
It's not just people with chronic conditions who are affected by the "vibes" of those around them. My mother used to come to the country with me, along with a care giver. I remember that I was SEVERELY allergic to one. She came only once. Then, I'm thinking of someone else - painfully negative (for me, anyway). I have a major allergic reaction to her. I also have profoundly positive reactions to some people. Again, I'm thinking of someone. I can feel my body relax at the thought of her.
Also, you mention Steven Porges (I think I have the spelling right). He's one of the experts in a favorite site I've long subscribed to - on neuro-biology. The name is a mouthful: National Institute for the Application of Behavioral Medicine.
Thats interesting. I have realized there are definitely toxic people, but had not thought we could be literally allergic to certain people. Makes sense to me. Yes the NIABM is putting out some useful materials.
very interesting concepts here, made me think! Also I appreciated that you make a distinction between explaining something and excusing it, something I find is often not done (in a general sense I mean, not only specifically to your topic).
Thank you, yes for these sensitive topics it is important both not to excuse and also not blame or shame people. I guess I learned that because those of us with trauma tend to be prone to feel these things deeply.
Good point - blaming and shaming are never helpful. Yeah, when it comes to very sensitive topics there's a lot to keep in mind.
Amazing awesome visceral....music was disturbing but so reflected the extremis.
For me it represented how even within frailty and fragility there is such inner strength to go on.